Explaining how complexity can arise through gradual evolution and debunking anti-evolutionist arguments Article on the origin of bacterial flagella: pages.uoregon.edu Transcript of Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial: www.aclupa.org
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Refuting the fallacious criticism put forward against my recent video on irreducible complexity.
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The song "Irreducible" from Jon Durant's forthcoming CD, "Dance of the Shadow Planets." (Alchemy Records) Featuring Jon Durant (guitar), Caryn Lin (violin), Colin Edwin (bass) and Jerry Leake (percussion) Photos by Jon Durant, from Antelope Slot Canyon, AZ
If we are to have a proper debate we all need to use the same definition of Irreducible Complexity. Michael Behe defines it as: "By irreducibly complex I mean a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning" The problem is ID / creationist supporters take this to mean that an IC system could not have evolved. Their mistake is that IC is a statement about a systems present state, not its past history. Many systems are by definition IC. But for every IC system studied data exists supporting a biologically plausible scenario for their evolution. So in short, are their IC systems. Yes. Does being IC mean it could not have evolved. NO. To download this video go to: www.mediafire.com If you wish to translate this video you can download the PowerPoint file from: www.mediafire.com Learn the facts, spread the truth, and most importantly, Think About It.
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BEHE CONCEDES IC SYSTEMS CAN EVOLVE Here I present a theory first published in 2003 by Nicholas Matzke. For more details one can view his work at www.talkdesign.org This theory is derived from a wealth of data regarding protein homologies. It shows that a fully functional flagellum could evolve through multiple functional intermediates. Each step involves the modification of only a single protein. For more discussion on the actual proteins involved and their homologues see the link above. When ID proponents ask what good is half a flagellum, well, ¾ a flagellum is good for dispersion, ½ a flagellum is good for attachment to substrates, ¼ a flagellum is good for regulated protein secretion. This model based on a wealth of evidence shows that the flagellum could evolve. Since 2003 many experiments have confirmed what initially were only predictions or weak assumptions. Still, many fine details remain to be worked out regarding function, not origin. For example, how does the ATP synthase derived components impart the motion of active transport, or how does the Tol-Pal derived components actually spine the flagellum. Behe in the Dover trial concedes that Irreducibly Complex systems can evolve. Lawyer -- "You say, Even if a system is irreducibly complex and thus could not have been produced directly, however, one cannot definitively rule out the possibility of an indirect, circuitous route, right? Behe -- "Yes." Lawyer -- "And by indirect, you mean evolution from a pre-cursor <b>...</b>
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A clip from the NOVA production, "Judgment Day."
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It says a lot about the ID movement when even their analogies fail under minor scrutiny.
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Irreducible complexity is a term used to describe a characteristic of certain complex systems whereby they need all of their individual component parts in place in order to function. In other words, it is impossible to reduce the complexity of (or to simplify) an irreducibly complex system by removing any of its component parts and still maintain its functionality. The otherwise benign concept of irreducible complexity incites fierce controversy when it is applied to biological systems. This is because it is seen as a challenge to Darwinian evolution, which, needless to say, remains the dominant paradigm in the field of biology. Charles Darwin conceded, "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down" (Origin of Species, 1859, p. 158). Michael Behe argues, "An irreducibly complex system cannot be produced directly (that is, by continuously improving the initial function, which continues to work by the same mechanism) by slight, successive modifications of a precursor system, because any precursor to an irreducibly complex system that is missing a part is by definition nonfunctional" (Darwin's Black Box, 1996, p. 39).
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feel free to rate, comment and subscribe! :) You may want to adjust the audio... Hopefully, the first in a series concerning evolution, science and creationism describing that topic. this series is for my own benefit, acting as a revision exercise and acting as good practice for researching topics of interest so any corrections and tips would be very much appreciated :) for more of the evolution of the eye: www.pbs.org www.blackwellpublishing.com www.teachersdomain.org en.wikipedia.org uk.youtube.com For more on Ireducible complexity (IC): www.talkorigins.org References 1. www.lehigh.edu 2. Behes Darwin's Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution. New York, Touchstone 1996. Pg 39 www.answersingenesis.org 4.en.wikipedia.org 5. www.talkorigins.org 6.en.wikisource.org 7. www.talkdesign.org 8. Semba U, Shibuya Y, Okabe H, Yamamoto T (1998). "Whale Hageman factor (factor XII): prevented production due to pseudogene conversion". Thromb Res 90 (1): 317. 9.www.talkdesign.org 10.www.pandasthumb.org 11. www.weichtiere.at 12. uk.youtube.com 13. Campbell, Reece, Urry, Cain, Wasserman, Minorsky, Jackson (2008) Biology, Benjamin Cummings, p 529 ISBN-13: 978-0-321-53616-7. 14. uk.youtube.com
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Long Partial Fractions Problem - Repeated Irreducible Quadratic Factors, Part 1. In this video, I work out a loooooong partial fractions problem that has a linear factor and a repeated irreducible quadratic factor. In this video, I find the partial fraction decomposition (the algebra). In part 2, I actually integrate the function.
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(Mirror from Kurpalac) Ken Miller discusses the error of the 'poster child' of intelligent design. He discusses the evolutionary history of the bacterial flagellum and how the parts both in groups and alone have function in other processes than the flagellum which is directly contradicts the idea of 'irreducible complexity.'
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Part Two (of two) of my reading from Chapter 9 (summary chapter) of "Irreducible Mind" by Kelly and Kelly, et al. This chapter summarizes and supports the authors' conclusion that "the self" has not been proven (via material reductionism) to be a product of brain activity, but instead, is apparently THE causal factor in our interpretation of and response to brain activity.
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Part ONE (of two) of my reading from Chapter 9 (summary chapter) of "Irreducible Mind" by Kelly and Kelly, et al. This chapter summarizes and supports the authors' conclusion that "the self" has not been proven (via material reductionism) to be a product of brain activity, but instead, is apparently THE causal factor in our interpretation of and response to brain activity.
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Archaeology, a branch of science that sheds light on the history of life and mankind... Archaeologists carry out long and difficult excavations looking for clues, such as tools, works of art, household items and the like, that can provide clues about the history of life and living things. Every remain they find is a discovery in the name of history, and an important resource that can illuminate the history of life and of mankind. Coins, hand tools, kitchen equipment and decorative goods all provide important clues about the lives of people in the past. Archaeologists know that the items they find do not appear under the ground by chance. Nobody has ever claimed that they do. Even if we do not actually witness these items being made, we can still be certain of the existence of people who designed and made them. Together with the information they contain, all these objects and artefacts are "intelligent designs." They were designed and produced for a specific purpose. They reflect the labour, expertise, taste and intelligence of the artists who made them. It would be quite irrational to suggest that any intelligent design came into being by chance, under the effects of natural conditions. So what about life? How should people who realise that even a simple artefact from under the ground is the product of design account for the origin of living things, each one of which has its own complexity? Mankind has made enormous advances in science and technology since the second half <b>...</b>
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A few years after Charles Darwin book "On the origin of Species" was published, he wrote a long series of letters to some of his peers outlining proofs that would falsify his theory of natural selection and descent with modification; he had done so also in his book, but in personal letters he continued to elaborate on proofs and tests that would prove his theory false. This, of course, is what scientists do: they state a hypothesis and then try extremely hard to prove the hypothesis false. Within those letters he explained the concept of irreducible complexity, though he did not use the phrase. He also wrote about the concept of scaffolding to explain the appearance of irreducible complexity. As far as I can tell from his journals, Darwin was still a Christian at the time, and I suspect he hoped that some sign of god would still be found in the biosphere.
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Creationists and Intelligent Design advocates claim there are certain biological structures which are irreducibly complex. Such structures, they claim, are evidence for an intelligent designer. But are these structures truly irreducibly complex? Or have they simply not been studied by mainstream science yet? In order to solve this problem, I have an idea...
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I know (nearly) all of the arguments "refuting" irreducible complexity. One of "the best" is there,by Ken Miller,who ignorantly proves that he has even never read Behe's book carefully. If you want to understand what I mean,you should read "Darwin's Black Box" by M. Behe. Be sure to buy the 2006 version. Anyway,I dont want to "prove" anything to you,i just found it on www.harunyahya.tv and wanted to put it here. Peace.
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This is the first installment of pwning irreducible complexity. In this video the team of experts at the JaguarJ0nes channel document how Behe unwittingly introduces his organ of copulation and urinary excretion into his own mouse trap and pwnership of the YEC is taken with the greatest of expedience. For more information, Please visit: www.talkorigins.org My demotivational posters: www.flickr.com
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This is the second in the "Blown Out Of The Water" series, focusing on the already-discredited argument of irreducible complexity.
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Reading aloud from the fascinating book: "Irreducible Mind" by Kelly & Kelly et al in which the authors correlate and substantiate over a century's worth of well documented research by eminent psychologists and neuro-scientists into the origin, location and irreducibility of our MINDS and our CONSCIOUSNESS. NOTE: Irreducibility means that your MIND cannot be reduced to mere brain activity -- it apparently exists independently of your physical body and/or brain and appears to be indestructible, and seemingly eternal.
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John McWhorter interviews Michael Behe on Bloggingheads.tv (8/26/2009). Discussion: Michael's book, "The Edge of Evolution" Malaria and evolution Do proteins point to teleology? Have we really hit a wall of understanding? Challenges to Michael's theory of irreducible complexity John: The boredom objection to intelligent design
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The conversation continues at www.biologos.org... Oxford physicist Ard Louis offers his take on the theory of irreducible complexity -- the idea that certain complex structures could not possibly emerge via evolution.
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what's worse than being wrong? Not even being consistent and logical enough to be wrong. oFNF is like most creationists and IDiots, they never define their goal post, so they're left free to deny whenever they like, and then complain they never get answers. See the section of Behe's testimony in the Dover trial, Notice how he keeps asking for RIGOROUS, but never tells you what he means or where it ends www.talkorigins.org =============== Q. Okay. So there's at least fifty more articles discussing the evolution of the immune system? A. And midpoint I am, I certainly haven't had time to look through these fifty articles, but I still am unaware of any that address my point that the immune system could arise or that present in a detailed rigorous fashion a scenario for the evolution by random mutation and natural selection of the immune system. Q. Origin and Evolution of the Vertebrate Immune System, by Pasquier. Evolution and Vertebrate Immunity, by Kelso. The Primordial Vrm System and the Evolution of Vertebrate Immunity, by Stewart. The Phylogenesis of Immune Functions, by Warr. The Evolutionary Mechanisms of Defense Reactions, by Vetvicka. Immunity and Evolution, Marchalonias. Immunology of Animals, by Vetvicka. You need some room here. Can you confirm these are books about the evolution of the immune system? A. Most of them have evolution or related words in the title, so I can confirm that, but what I strongly doubt is that any of these address the question in a <b>...</b>
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Excerpt from a debate between biology professor PZ Myers and creationist crank Jerry Bergman. For a thorough debunking of Bergman on the irreducible complexity of atoms (and to read about the time he quoted the Bible to call me a pig), see here: www.lukesci.com/2011/09/17/intelligent-design-and-why-jerry-bergmans-claims-about-chemistry-are-wrong/
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Just a quick note also: The CO group I treated as one atom! In reality it would be more complicated! If it helps think of these instead as halogens! On this link I have all of the videos + a character table download link, as well as a point group flow chart! inorgrouptheory.blogspot.com The molecule is a Ni- tetracarbonyl compound that is in a trigonal-pyramidal formation, which is actually not how this molecule should look in nature (it should really be a tetrahedral compound).
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Here, I analyze two evolutionary pathways which have been suggested as Darwinian explanations for the origin of irreducibly complex systems, focusing specifically on a subset of irreducibly complex molecular machines. I explore scaffolding and Elimination of Functional Redundancy, and conclude that neither of these two pathways are general solutions to the origin of irreducibly complex molecular machines. For more info on biological origins, check out my website: thegenomestale.wordpress.com This video is also a bit of a response to QualiaSoup's video, "Irreducible Complexity Cut Down to Size," which can be found here: www.youtube.com Note that there may be a few typos in this video. Typos do not reflect my education, but rather my video making skills.
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Irreducible complexity suggests that because there would be points in the eye's development where it served no function at all, that it had no reason to evolve at all so evolution is a lie. And if evolution is a struggle uphill then that makes sense. But what if evolution isn't climbing up mount improbable? What if it's falling down from it? Here's a link to a wiki about the flightless cormerant: en.wikipedia.org
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Archaeologists carry out long and difficult excavations looking for clues, such as tools, works of art, household items and the like, that can provide clues about the history of life and living things. Coins, hand tools, kitchen equipment and decorative goods all provide important clues about the lives of people in the past. Archaeologists know that the items they find do not appear under the ground by chance. Nobody has ever claimed that they do. Even if we do not actually witness these items being made, we can still be certain of the existence of people who designed and made them. So what about life? How should people who realise that even a simple artefact from under the ground is the product of design account for the origin of living things, each one of which has its own complexity? Organs possessed of irreducible complexity in living things, such as the ones you will see in this film, totally undermine the theory of evolution and reveal the fact that we are created by God. Life was created, and reveals to us the omniscience of our Creator, Almighty God, the Lord of all the worlds... You can learn more by visiting www.harunyahya.net
Long Partial Fractions Problem - Repeated Irreducible Quadratic Factors, Part 2. In this video, I finish out the integration of the partial fraction decomposition by using u-substitutions and a trigonometric substitution.
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Qualiasoup tries to refute irreducible complexity....and ends up creating a strawman! Behe's latest peer reviewed paper (Yes, there are peer reviewed papers on Intelligent Design!) www.lehigh.edu This paper talks about how it is much easier for mutations to break things then to build them - and suprise, that is what we observe!
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In this edition of how to pwn a YEC, the laughable concept of irreducible complexity is dissected further and the team of experts at the Jaguar Jones Institute lay out their case for the tarring and feathering of Michael Behe. My demotivational posters: www.flickr.com
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