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PART 1 of 2 The Kel-Tec PF-9 is a great alternative to the Kahr PM series of polymer framed pistols. It costs less than half the price and yet offers excellent accuracy, reliability, firepower, lightweight, and outstanding carry comfort. And it some ways, as discussed in the video, it even beats the Kahr PM series (PF-9: thinner, longer sight radius, 1 extra round, longer grip but still ultra concealable). Against the Kahr CW series, it compares in value but weighs a substantial 3 ounces less. As shown in my companion shooting video, the PF-9 is a good shooter too once you learn the trigger and get accustomed to the somewhat snappy recoil. It can readily serve as a concealed carry option, officers backup gun, or as a possible all-around home defense pistol as well (a lighter weight, more concealable gun like the PF-9 could prove to be more versatile and more used by the homeowner in the long run). Initial production versions of the Kel-Tec PF-9 were fraught with reliability and quality problems and some may mistakenly think these issues persist. They dont. Those have all been fixed and current iterations are providing stellar service with their users (reference ktog.org for specific serial number issues if purchasing a used PF-9). For most users, the PF-9 will last your lifetime as well. Overall, it is a high value gun that is backed up with typically great Kel-Tec customer service. /////////////Nutnfancy Initial Likeability Scale: 9 of 10
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PART 1 OF 3: The Kel-Tec SU-16C is a super lightweight, portable rifle possessing excellent firepower, good accuracy, and reliability. At a mere 4.7 lbs the SU-16C enjoys an amazingly versatile POU: backpacking gun, patrol officer carbine, civilian sheepdog weapon, or aircrew armament. As shown with Burris "Speed Dot" sight , 30 rd USGI mag (empty), M6 laser/light, and single point sling the SU-16C weighs still a svelte 5.8 lbs. The SU-16C is a high value gun and competes against that also excellent Ruger Mini-14 in the high value .223 carbine category (subject to change with pricing). It takes the ubiquitous AR-15 magazines which gives it plentiful and useful firepower. Integrating a built in Picatinny rail, the SU-16C can easily take optics to increase night sighting and overall hit potential. I recommend sticking to very lightweight sighting options on the gun to retain its portability and speed in handling. The iron sights however are good using a ghost-ring aperture system. They are capable of good accuracy at 50 yards as shown with my target proof. The SU-16C should be considered to have a break-in period and one model I shot experienced many stoppages until this phase was complete. Thereafter (and after cleaning and lubing), that example became 100% reliable with a variety of ammunition. Ensure the bolt, lock lugs, and bolt carrier wear a good lubricant like BreakFree CLP or Slip2000 to help ensure reliable functioning. Some users polish the bottom of the bolt <b>...</b>
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PART 2 OF 3: The Kel-Tec SU-16C is a super lightweight, portable rifle possessing excellent firepower, good accuracy, and reliability. At a mere 4.7 lbs the SU-16C enjoys an amazingly versatile POU: backpacking gun, patrol officer carbine, civilian sheepdog weapon, or aircrew armament. As shown with Burris "Speed Dot" sight , 30 rd USGI mag (empty), M6 laser/light, and single point sling the SU-16C weighs still a svelte 5.8 lbs. The SU-16C is a high value gun and competes against that also excellent Ruger Mini-14 in the high value .223 carbine category (subject to change with pricing). It takes the ubiquitous AR-15 magazines which gives it plentiful and useful firepower. Integrating a built in Picatinny rail, the SU-16C can easily take optics to increase night sighting and overall hit potential. I recommend sticking to very lightweight sighting options on the gun to retain its portability and speed in handling. The iron sights however are good using a ghost-ring aperture system. They are capable of good accuracy at 50 yards as shown with my target proof. The SU-16C should be considered to have a break-in period and one model I shot experienced many stoppages until this phase was complete. Thereafter (and after cleaning and lubing), that example became 100% reliable with a variety of ammunition. Ensure the bolt, lock lugs, and bolt carrier wear a good lubricant like BreakFree CLP or Slip2000 to help ensure reliable functioning. Some users polish the bottom of the bolt <b>...</b>
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The little Kel-Tec Sub-2000 may surprise you. With a Zytel frame and its lightweight, t would be easy to discount this compact, 4 lb pistol chambered carbine. Don't. After extensively testing the "Sub2K" over a period of months, it made me a believer. Apparently everyone elese as well: every TNP crew member and guest that ran this gun loved it. Chugging through well over a thousand rounds in tactical drills and a lot of accuracy tesing, the Sub-2000 has proven itself to be one of the best pistol caliber carbines in the world. If you factor in its incredible small and folding form factor and extreme value (a $300 purchase price) it's probably the best. Reliability was mostly excellent. As indicatated in the manual, the gun does not like aluminum cased ammo. That's a shame because it saves money and weight in the POUs I indicate in my video "Pistol Caliber Carbines Don't Suck (Afterall)" by Nutnfancy (www.youtube.com However with brass cased ammo, including various JHP loads, the Sub-2000 was nearly perfectly reliable (one jam, shown). Accuracy of the Sub-2000 is outstanding. When outfitted with the Kel-Tec aluminum QUAD RAIL, attaching a red dot sight is a snap and it maintains zero. It helped the gun to achieve the excellent accuracy shown. However with this rail, the folding feature is affected as discussed. I still recommend however as sling and light attachment to the gun are simplified. It adds little to the weight and size as well. The aperture sights are adequate as <b>...</b>
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Overview by Kel-Tec technician of the their new KSG 12 gauge shotgun scheduled for release in 3rd quarter or 2011. The KSG weighs 6.9 lbs (8.5lbs loaded) and is 26.1inches long with a 18.5 cylinder bore barrel. It has dual tube magazines that allow it to hold 14 rounds of 12 gauge 2 3/4 shells (7 per tube).
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Shooting and showing the Kel-Tec PF9 - My first impressions while shooting this popular little pistol. John shot the gun after the video and had the same problem with the magazine being released inadvertently. We don't have this issue with any other gun, even small ones, so we'll have to keep an eye on the gun to make sure it's actually US and not the gun. Time will tell.
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The RFB is a Forward ejecting Bullpup rifle chamber for the 7.62 NATO Cartridge ( .308 Winchester). Three different barrel lengths will be available rangeing from 18" to 32". the first RFB's are expected to ship during the first quarter of 2008. For more info visit: www.kel-tec.com
The KelTec KSG shotgun rocks the desert in the new Nutnfancy "Eat Lead" Drill. Combining combat-style of shotgunning with some challenging pistol targets, Eat Lead is a fast-paced course that starts in a trench and winds through sage brush and juniper. Many opportunities emerge for both system and shooter failure, always providing excellent and real systems data for the viewer. This will be the world video premier of the KSG being ran like this. With its 7+7+1 mag tube systems, short bullpup configuration, double pistol grips, and lightweight, the KSG is a cutting edge design. We come up with a few solid ideas however to make it better. With crew PFIDude, PFIDad, and Chad from Kel-Tec, this Nutnfancy Crew steps up and locks in to find out how it stacks against the proven speed and reliability of a Winchester 1300 in the course. Add in the handgunning, the joking, the workout, the gear surprises (oh yeah, there's lots), and you have yourself another fun and exhausting Nutnfancy RunNGun course...Eat Lead./////////////////////// Perfect EAT LEAD run score is 36 (25 pt/hits, 5 pt speed run bonus, 3 pt no miss shotgun bonus, 3 pt handgun no miss bonus). Any HOSTAGE hits subtract 5 pts! ////////Note: Downloading the KSG in the initial runs is imperative for a good test. Running full tubes would not have explored the complicated reload/switchover process unless the course was lengthened to an expensive, tiring, and time consuming 30 rds! And keep in mind, I ran several runs with <b>...</b>
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Time to saddle up with some more hardcore shooting inThe Nutnfancy Project (TNP). It's all about hanging out with friends, getting some practice, and testing some cool guns which may change the shooting world. Enter Kel-Tec RFB battle rifle and the featherweight 30 rd PMR-30 .22 mag pistol. Each sets new standards for design. But can they hold up to the real world testing of TNP? To find out say hello the the TNP crew of Nutnfancy, PFIDude, and PFIDAD (!) who put down a bunch of runs in practical shooting in the Sledgehammer Drill to find out. The wind was cranking and the sky was cloudy. We are joined by Chad from Kel-Tec who brought these cool (and hard to find!) toys for us to abuse. In designing this episode of The Sledgehammer Drill, I wanted some quality competition for the KT products. Mission accomplished as I pit the KelTec RFB up against some other winning .308 battle rifles: the FN 17S (SCAR Heavy semi-auto) and the outstanding Springfield M1A SOCOM II. Pistols play in the wind too and you may find the face-off between PMR-30 .22 WMG versus the FN Five-Seven 5.7x28mm quite interesting. Expect some laughs, some mistakes, and some surprises...standard fare in TNP. As usual we don't take ourselves too seriously but we do the gear and getting rounds on target under some stressful, timed shooting drills...all of which has been a staple of TNP since 2008. Chad fits into the crew with perfection as we slam out some great sarcasm and insults whenever we can fit it in <b>...</b>
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Fun Gun Reviews Presents: The Kel-Tec P-11 9mm sub compact pistol. One of the smallest 9mm semi-automatic handguns on the market. Great for Concealed Carry on a budget, but excellent quality as well.
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You might find some good laughs and perhaps some fun in this Nutnfancy Kel-Tec 20111 product update. But as you've come to expect, I stay on target and hit the details like no other. The good, the bad, and the outstanding high points of Kel-Tec are discussed here. Chad from Kel-Tec is especially cool and turns out to be another Gold Star host for TNP. He rolls in most excellent fashion with the Nutnfancy style as we delve into yet more Kel-Tec impressive innovation. Namely their 26″ 12 gauge bullpup shotgun that will carry 14+1 rounds. Weighing in at a respectable 6.9 lbs, the Kel-Tec KSG-12 seems compact, fast, and sets new standards of PUMP shotgun firepower. The innovative KSG features include on-the-fly user-selectable magazines (each holding 7 2 ¾" rds), magazine cutoff ability for loading single rounds, plenty of railing for accessories and a VG, different colors, sling attachment points, and has screw-in cokes. If it's everything it seems to be the KSG will be another slam dunk seller for KT and the crew (and of course probably impossible to find for the next year). Also we check out the also impressive RMR-30 .22 WMG semi-auto carbine. In conversations with Kel-Tec, this is a gun I wanted them to make. It fills a distinct niche in as a lightweight, high-value survival/bug-out rifle with substantial firepower. And it uses the more-affordable and yet potent-enough .22 WMG (not the very expensive and flatlined 5.7x28mm). It seems to still be in development and expect <b>...</b>
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Kel-Tec is rightly known for bringing high value, reliable auto pistols and the SU-16 series to the shooting public. They all have garnered a solid reputation for reliability and overall good accuracy. This is the table top review of the excellent P-3AT .380 pistol, previously shot at the Nutnfancy Tactical Clinic in the desert (see vid). This is an excellent backup handgun for police officers or even a primary gun for CCW holders and armed, responsible civilians. It did hiccupp once in the break in period, as predicted by the owners manual, but was completely reliable thereafter. Its high points are its decent DAO trigger, good accuracy, and most beneficial, its extreme lightweight and slim profile which make it very comfortable in carry. Its sights do indeed suck (low contrast and imprecise) and could use a lot of improvement but of course it will be a rarity for the gun to engage beyond 10 yds. Judging from my experience in the clinic and in years past, the P-3AT is a high value .380 option that could save your life. Nutnfancy highly recommends this little affordable auto. Nutnfancy Likeability Scale: 9 out of 10 (weight considered)
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A Nutnfancy Tactical Clinic shoot of the excellent Kel-Tec P3AT in .380 caliber. Kel-Tec is rightly known for bringing high value, reliable auto pistols and the SU-16 series to the shooting public. They all have garnered a solid reputation for reliability and overall good accuracy. Here Nutnfancy pops some rounds through a brand new, unfired P3AT. It hicups once in the break in period, as predicted by the owners manual, but was completely reliable thereafter. Its high points are its extreme lighweight, slim profile, and thus comfort in carry. Its sights do indeed suck and could use a lot of improvement but of course it will be a rarity for the gun to engage beyond 10 yds. Judging from my experience here and in years past, the P3AT is a great CCW choice or officer's ankle gun. Nutnfancy highly recommends this little affordable auto. Nutnfancy Likeability Scale: 9 out of 10 (weight considered)
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Can the Kel-Tec RFB catch up? It runs well in this Part 2 of "No Fear" as it continues with little lubrication with the various shooters in the TNP Sledgehammer Drill. Best score so far with the RFB is 32 points with Chad from Kel-Tec. But the FN 17S having thrown down 54 pts in the Nutnfancy Run #1 will be a hard catch (in fact the 9 hits at 200 yds is a course record). We are in for a few surprises though as an optics mount comes loose (good job Chad!), a pistol goes flying, the PMR-30s continue to jam, and even the FN 17S has a failure to feed. Did I say surprises? Actually it's the norm as the Sledge course as it continues functions as designed, revealing real data that will be useful and entertaining to the viewer. Lunch time ensues with the fellas and we inhale the cajun grilled chicken on french rolls in the high wind. Speaking of wind, I generate a bit of my own as usual for a little more entertainment. As testament to his coolness, we treat Chad as one of our own as we continue working the guns hard and making fun of each other. Welcome to Part 2 ///////////////////////Music: Licensed to TNP from Jason Shaw
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Perhaps jinxed by the crew bragging how reliable it was, the RFB brings a surprise here. I do not prefer its choice of FAL mags and I discuss why. But despite differences in zeros on the gun, the RFB manages to turn in 41 point run tie with both PFIDude and Nutnfancy. However it will never catch up with the FN 17S and its 54 pts in the Nutnfancy Run #1. Granted many variables are at play and that makes it more entertaining and interesting. After a full strip-down and lubrication, we remain hopeful on the Kel-Tec PMR-30 runs as well. We love its lightweight, ergos, sights, mag capacity, and price. We however are not loving its reliability. The more powerful 5.7x28mm FN Five-Seven does dominate here but as we mention but it is an expensive ride and practicing with it could break the bank. PFIDAD hangs tough in the many runs on "Sledge Road" as does Chad and fun continues as do a "little bit of this and a little bit of that along the way."///////////Music: Licensed to TNP from Jason Shaw///////////////// We attribute the RFB's failures to feed to the magazine from we could gather. Chad says "A new mag for the gun is the easiest fix to your gun ever."
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KelTec does not ride on past accomplishments. They are always looking to what the market wants and coming up with innovative designs to fufill those needs. Case in point: the new .22 WMR semi-auto "PMR-30" pistol by KelTec is mind blowing. With an empty weight of just 13.6 oz, fiber optic sights, mini-red dot base provision, and a whopping 30 round magazine capacity (!) I predict it will be a runaway best seller at predicted street price of about $375 (2nd qtr 2010 avail, good luck!). In many ways this PMR-30 is an affordable alternative to the FN FiveSeven pistol and its eclectic and expensive 5.7x28mm ammo. It's 1230 fps muzzle velocity comes close to duplicating that load for a lot less money and widespread availability. Then there's the "RFB" is a semi-auto .308 Winchester (7.62x51mm) rifle accepting metric FN FAL magazines. It's a short bullpup design as shown to us by KelTec technician Matt Groom. It has several unique feature including out-the-front ejection of spent casings (which I don't super dig), reversible charging handle (big plus), chrome lined bore and chamber, short-stroke piston system that's adjustable, picatinny rail, and an overall 27" length. With its 18' it weighs 8.6 lbs which is on par with other 2010 .308 carbines but its bullpup configuration owns them in terms of compactness. KelTec says the RFB possesses a good trigger as well (unconfirmed). Also reviewed in this KelTec booth review by Nutnfancy is the KelTec folding D2 steel bayonet (maybe a <b>...</b>
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Some more shooting and some comparison with another large .22, the S&W Model 41. Mainly we just shoot the PMR-30 some more and do a little comparison between the basic .22 rimfire cartridge and the .22 Magnum cartridge. Another thanks to the gun shop On Target, which is located in Murfreesboro, Tn: www.ontargettn.com
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Glenn Bellamy (armorer-at-law.com) fires KSG bullpup before the start of SHOT Show 2011. Half-way through the string of fire he switches magazines. KSG is 26.25" long and has a 18.5" barrel. Each magazine holds 7 rounds for a 14+1 total. Read more about it at KelTecWeapons.com
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How much does the Kel-Tec RFB rock? Mostly positive reviews come out in Part 4, Final of "No Fear" but it never catches the FN 17S in points and we all weigh in with post-shoot observations. We chase darkness in the final runs of the Sledge and some of the best laughs emerge in this final part. How does the PMR-30 end up? After lubrication we hope for 100%. Big laughs, big fun, great testing, lots of work, and I end it by talking about PFI's Barbie collection. Like Chad from Kel-Tec throws down, we're glad "it kinda' worked out!" /////////////Music: Licensed from Jason Shaw
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Bragging rights from my "Eat Lead" close quarters drill will be hard won. In the hunt is the excellent Winchester 1300 versus newcomer: the innovative KelTec KSG shotgun (and later a Saiga 12). More runs ensue from the trench with the Nutnfancy crew of Chad from KelTec, the "PFIs" (Dude and Dad), and myself. More surprises and laughs are in store but we stay focused on improving our techniques and times with all systems. We note several helpful observations in running the KSG system that might help you also to master such a new system; the magazine tube selector will almost always take the shooter by surprise unless you "game" it. And to make it fun and more interesting, handguns are still an important part of the runs and product testing (I believe that gunners should be well-rounded in all disciplines). I remain impressed with my .45 ACP Smith and Wesson 1911 #108303 handgun choice as it continues to dominate the steel at the pistol stage. Hitting the 40 yard plate is tough. But PFIDude steps up however with a Springfield XDM45 and delivers equally impressive hits and speed as well in this part. Even Chad's runs come together here as his speed and accuracy improves with the KSG and the FNP9 handgun. And while PFIDude and Dad take an extended lunch break back at the truck (what?!), Chad and I work straight on through and slam down out more runs. As usual time and energy are in limited quantities. Somewhere along the way I test the prototype KelTec single point sling tie <b>...</b>
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First-time firing of pre-production KSG by officers at Lakewood Police Department. They are not used to the manual of arms, but you can see how the gun works and note the negligible muzzle rise on recoil. Ammunition is a mix of 00 buckshot and slugs. See KelTecWeapons.com and KTOG.org for more information about this firearm.
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This Nutnfancy crew speeds up the times with the KSG shotgun in this challenging "Eat Lead" Drill in the sagebrush and juniper. It is fast to point, accurate, and mostly reliable. I say mostly because Chad from Kel-Tec experiences a surprise near the end that you will have to check out. As with other bottom ejecting shotgun designs (Ithaca 37), jams can be ugly. The Winchester 1300 runs 100% throughout. The scores turn in a surprising three way tie in this Eat Lead Part 3. Chad on the next run shoots well with the XDM9 now, turns in a very respectable 27 pt run. With some hostage hits here and there by the fellas (which deducts 5 pts each), this results in three 27 pt runs (Nutnfancy, Chad, and PFIDude). PFIDude's 126.24 sec Win 1300/XDM45 run barely edges out my KSG/S&W 1911 126.9 sec run and takes the 5 pt speed bonus. Pistol shooting has dropped of a bit and no one turns in a perfect pistol stage in this part which leaves a 5 pt bonus unused (see scoring below). My first run with 00 Buckshot in the KSG turns in an underwhelming 20 pts. Shooting buckshot takes commitment and I had forgotten that, thus missing some targets and running it in a slow-for-me 157 secs (and my pistol hits dropped off). Shooting full power buck is very tough and you need to try it to appreciate the difficulty and recoil. Feeding rounds into both shotguns, as to be expected, is slow. With the KSG I indentify the need to bevel the feed area better. The tube switchover continues to take all by <b>...</b>
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PART 2 of 2 The Kel-Tec PF-9 is a great alternative to the Kahr PM series of polymer framed pistols. It costs less than half the price and yet offers excellent accuracy, reliability, firepower, lightweight, and outstanding carry comfort. And it some ways, as discussed in the video, it even beats the Kahr PM series (PF-9: thinner, longer sight radius, 1 extra round, longer grip but still ultra concealable). Against the Kahr CW series, it compares in value but weighs a substantial 3 ounces less. As shown in my companion shooting video, the PF-9 is a good shooter too once you learn the trigger and get accustomed to the somewhat snappy recoil. It can readily serve as a concealed carry option, officers backup gun, or as a possible all-around home defense pistol as well (a lighter weight, more concealable gun like the PF-9 could prove to be more versatile and more used by the homeowner in the long run). Initial production versions of the Kel-Tec PF-9 were fraught with reliability and quality problems and some may mistakenly think these issues persist. They dont. Those have all been fixed and current iterations are providing stellar service with their users (reference ktog.org for specific serial number issues if purchasing a used PF-9). For most users, the PF-9 will last your lifetime as well. Overall, it is a high value gun that is backed up with typically great Kel-Tec customer service. /////////////Nutnfancy Initial Likeability Scale: 9 of 10
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Here's a quick video of some KSG test firing footage to hold you over for the upcoming KSG review video which will cover everything you need to know! The KSG is a dual fed bull-pup pump action shotgun. It has two tubular magazines that hold 7 rounds each that you must manually switch between with a selector switch. Casings eject downwards. Visit www.ktog.org for more info!
BigDaddyHoffman1911 showing and shooting The Kel-Tec PMR-30 .22 Magnum "30 Round Magazine" Semi-Auto Pistol at some steel targets at The Hoffman Compound. ***If you like this video Please Like, Favorite and Subscribe. **** Hope you enjoy and as always "Thanks For Watching".....OohRah Check Below For More Info. Website: www.keltecweapons.com MSRP $415.00 Info I Found: The PMR-30 is a light weight, full size pistol chambered for the flat-shooting .22Magnum cartridge (.22WMR). The PMR-30 operates on a unique hybrid blowback/locked-breech system. This operation system allows for the use of a wide variety of ammunition as it seamlessly adjusts between locked breach and blowback operation, depending on the pressure of the cartridge. It uses a double stack magazine of a new design that holds 30 rounds and fits completely in the grip of the pistol. The trigger is a crisp single action with an over-travel stop. The manual safety is a thumb activated ambidextrous safety lever (up for SAFE, down for FIRE). The slide locks back after the last shot and a manual slide lock lever is also provided. The light, crisp trigger pull and fiber optic sights make the PMR-30 ideal for target shooting and hunting small game. TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS Calibers: .22 Magnum (.22WMR) Weight unloaded: 13.6oz. 385.6g Loaded Magazine: 6oz. 170.1g Length: 7.9" 200.7mm Height: 5.8" 147.3mm Width: 1.3" 33.0mm Barrel length: 4.3" 109.2mm Sight radius: 6.9" 175.3mm Energy (40gr): 138ft-lbs 187J Capacity: 30 <b>...</b>
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